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Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | I use Wordfast

Samuel Murray — Sat, 24 Dec 2016 09:28:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: I use Wordfast

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
So what is your preferred CAT tool, Samuel? And why do you like it so much? [/quote]

I use Wordfast Classic. I do not "like" it. But I'm used to it. And my fingers are used to it.

It lacks many features that other CAT tools have (e.g. filtering of segments, automatic segment propagation) and the current version lacks some features the older versions had (e.g. reliable match comparison, manual glossary stemming), and there are some things that wished were different (e.g. updating the active TM when an unedited match comes from a reference TM). And there are some things that I'm just used to (e.g. the fact that TMs and glossaries are plain text files, which means that most of my TM and glossary management is be done by copy/pasting human readable text).

But mostly I keep using it because my fingers are used to it. Finger memory affects translation speed and ease of use more than anything else. But that is not relevant in a discussion of a new CAT tool.

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | What CAT tool you use

FrancescoP — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:30:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: FrancescoP
Post title: What CAT tool you use

[quote]Samuel Murray wrote:

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
I just run a quick test on OmegaT and ... one thing that surprises me is the old fashion approach of the editor, with the target below the source instead of next to it. [/quote]

Many translators actually prefer that. Such translators only tolerate side-by-side in tools like Trados because those tools don't offer any alternative view. But you're welcome to arrange for the side-by-side view as an option to be developed, if you think it will increase your productivity by much.

[/quote]

So what is your preferred CAT tool, Samuel? And why do you like it so much?

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Side by side view in OmegaT

Samuel Murray — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 22:53:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: Side by side view in OmegaT

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
I just run a quick test on OmegaT and ... one thing that surprises me is the old fashion approach of the editor, with the target below the source instead of next to it. [/quote]

Many translators actually prefer that. Such translators only tolerate side-by-side in tools like Trados because those tools don't offer any alternative view. But you're welcome to arrange for the side-by-side view as an option to be developed, if you think it will increase your productivity by much.

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Merci Didier!

FrancescoP — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 17:08:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: FrancescoP
Post title: Merci Didier!

I installed the Okapi plug-in and now the segmentation is correct:

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Very helpful, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Try the Okapi plugin

Didier Briel — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 16:40:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Didier Briel
Post title: Try the Okapi plugin

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
You are being very helpful. I just run a quick test on OmegaT and it doesn't seem to support WorldServer exported xlif format for some reasons. [/quote]
You should try the Okapi plugin:
[url removed]

Can you send me the file privately?
The display I see looks strange, with tags not interpreted.

Didier

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Thank you Samuel

FrancescoP — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 16:30:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: FrancescoP
Post title: Thank you Samuel

You are being very helpful. I just run a quick test on OmegaT and it doesn't seem to support WorldServer exported xlif format for some reasons. One thing that surprises me is the old fashion approach of the editor, with the target below the source instead of next to it. It has a 1980s feel.

[url= [url removed] ][img] [url removed] [/img][/url][url= [url removed] ]caricare immagini[/url]

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | XLIFF

CafeTran Training (X) — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 14:10:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: CafeTran Training (X)
Post title: XLIFF

[quote]Samuel Murray wrote:

do you know of any other XLIFF editors that are primarily XLIFF editors and not just CAT tools that happen to have XLIFF editing capability?
[/quote]

[url removed]

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | @Francesco, bringing the discussion back to Ocelot

Samuel Murray — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 13:36:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: @Francesco, bringing the discussion back to Ocelot

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
I think all of these problems are easy fixes and I can add them to the backlog. What else do you think it would make Ocelot an attractive CAT tool for freelancers? [/quote]

I don't think that there is hope for Ocelot as a CAT tool. There are too many things missing. And even if you add those things, no-one is going to switch to Ocelot unless Ocelot provides something crucially more than the user gets elsewhere. Ocelot should focus on that which it does best, and improve itself for that purpose, i.e. as an LQA assistant.

There may be some hope for Ocelot as an XLIFF editor, but only if it doesn't render the XLIFF files unusable in their original programs, and only if it greatly, greatly improves its editing capabilities. There is certainly a gap in the market for a better non-CAT XLIFF editor. I can think of only Heartsome/Araya and Virtaal -- do you know of any other XLIFF editors that are primarily XLIFF editors and not just CAT tools that happen to have XLIFF editing capability?

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | @Didier, I was speaking like a user

Samuel Murray — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:58:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: @Didier, I was speaking like a user

[quote]Didier Briel wrote:
[quote]Samuel Murray wrote:
...whose author had forked from OmegaT many years ago and added some of his own customisations, some of which were eventually included in OmegaT as well.[/quote]
Nothing from OmegaT+ was used in OmegaT. ... Perhaps we developed similar features... [/quote]
Yes, I was speaking like a user, not like a developer. OmegaT+ has a feature that does/accomplishes X, and since then OmegaT also got a feature that does/accomplishes X.

[quote]Didier Briel wrote:
Your links... [/quote]

...still don't work, even after fixing it.

[Edited at 2016-12-23 12:09 GMT]

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Broken links

Didier Briel — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 08:57:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Didier Briel
Post title: Broken links

[quote]Samuel Murray wrote:
Changes requested by users: * Allow searches across source, target simultaneously [here][/quote]
Your links appear as
[url removed]
because you didn't include "https" before sourceforge.net/p/omegat/xxx.

Didier

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Nothing from OmegaT+ was used in OmegaT

Didier Briel — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 08:55:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Didier Briel
Post title: Nothing from OmegaT+ was used in OmegaT

[quote]Samuel Murray wrote:
whose author had forked from OmegaT many years ago and added some of his own customisations, some of which were eventually included in OmegaT as well).
[/quote]
Nothing from OmegaT+ was used in OmegaT.

Perhaps we developed similar features, so that would give you that impression.

Didier

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Heartsome hasn't changed

Didier Briel — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 08:52:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Didier Briel
Post title: Heartsome hasn't changed

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
I haven't check back in a year, so maybe something has changed.[/quote]
Nothing changed since the initial commit in 2014:
[url removed]

Didier

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Updates in OmegaT (slightly off-topic)

Samuel Murray — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 07:09:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: Updates in OmegaT (slightly off-topic)

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
I tried both versions a year ago. Just checking again if there's been any progress. [/quote]

Progress in OmegaT+ since 1 year ago:

None.

Progress in OmegaT since 1 year ago:

[size=10]Changes requested by users: * Allow searches across source, target simultaneously [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Flexible use of spellcheck (with and w/o locale) [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * New team mode implementation [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Update LanguageTool to 3.3 [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Dismiss auto-completer window after hitting right/left arrow keys [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Support prefix search for dictionary [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Support ssh-agent for git public key authentication [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Put archive contents in self-titled root folder for all distributions [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Add action menus to panes [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Notify user when minimized panes have content [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Add Segment Properties pane [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Emacs-style keyboard navigation in autocompleter [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Add GUI aligner tool [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Update Lucene to 5.2.1 [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Apply aggressive font fallback to Search results [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Handle multiple selection in Project Files list context menu [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Compatibility with MED format [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Scripting Editor Enhancements [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Perform case folding when looking up dictionary entries [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Show glossary entries in tooltips on TransTips marks [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Port build system to Gradle [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Bundle spelling dictionaries [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Cull excessive English stop words list [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Add tool for creating team projects [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Paralellize match statistics calculations [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Make scripts cancelable [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Add history prediction and completion [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Make SRT filter robust against inconsistent EOL chars [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Script to adapt match tags to target [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Improve handling of tags and custom tags for RTL languages [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Add Insert Unicode Control Character menu and right-click menu [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Allow width-insensitive search [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Re-use search window(s) with a shortcut [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Allow moving the cursor anywhere in the editor [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Add menus to the Search window [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Improve case matching in glossary auto-completer [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Keep top Machine Translation pane item visible [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Keep top Alternative Translation match visible [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Open help in external browser [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Make it possible to create dictionary plugins [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Improve editor performance with very large files [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Immediately apply changes to automatic save interval [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Filters for Java Properties XML and Schematron [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Open source & target files from the Project Files window [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Support Undo and Redo in the Notes pane [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Add sentence case to Shift+F3 case change [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Improve glossary matching of terms containing numbers [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Allow suppressing MT retrieval for translated segments [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Ctrl-M manual call of MT on translated segments [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Machine translate only current segment, on demand [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Make URLs in Comments, Notes, Glossary panes clickable [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Back up preferences when a loading error occurs [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Set focus to "Search for" field if search returns zero hits [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Allow disabling unescaping of Unicode literals (\uXXXX) in Java Resource Bundle filter [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Lazily load StarDict dictionary contents [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Improve explanation text in the Search window [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Automatically replace glossary hits when inserting source text [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Allow excluding orphan segments from search results [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Show revision number in version string [ [url=" [url removed] "]here[/url] ] * Mac OS X: It is now possible to make the project files list "truly" full-screen. On OS X 10.11 this means you can have the main window and the project files window open side-by-side in split view.

Other changes: * Replace glossary hits now supports multi-word glossary replacements * The default memory allocation is now 1024 MB on all platforms * There's now a Lucene Polish tokenizer * When the list of online spelling dictionaries is displayed, it is possible to double-click on a dictionary instead of pressing Install * It's possible to disable individual autocompleter views * When a filter is applied to the Project Files dialog (simply by typing characters), the filter is reflected in the title -- e.g., Project Files (2 of 48) -- and the filter pattern is highlighted in the file paths. * In the script nbsp.groovy, it is now possible to replace straight apostrophes with curly ones. At the beginning of the script, def fix_apostrophes = false; must be replaced with def fix_apostrophes = true; * In the Nbsp script, % was added to the list of characters that must be preceded by a non-breaking space * The Windows setup program can now be launched in any of the supported languages, regardless of the languages installed in Windows * Revised user manual * Filter for Wordpress XML export * The appearance under Windows "high-contrast" themes is improved * Support 3.0.0 StarDict dictionaries * To reflect TaaS's change of policy, a key is now mandatory to use the service * Exclude .DS_Store files from translation by default * When using the line length limit in the Text filter, the filter tries preventing cutting after "\" and ":" and before "{" and ":" * Updated documentation * spellcheck.groovy has a new option to ignore segments where source=target * A new script, Strip Bidi Marks (strip_bidi_marks.groovy) allows removing bidi marks in the current segment * It's now possible to have an alternative translation where the translation is the same but the note is different * The Open XML filter now loads Visio 2013 files with the extension * .vsdx. * In the online help, external links will open in the user default browser * In the Resource Bundler filter (.properties) whitespace-only lines are not modified anymore * The About dialog now indicates whether the current Java VM is 32-bit or 64-bit * A new script (nbsp.groovy) replaces spaces with non-breaking spaces where appropriate in French.[/size]

[i]The URLs don't work, and I don't know why. I blame ProZ.com's broken forum software that hasn't been fixed since a decade ago.[/i]

[Edited at 2016-12-23 12:08 GMT]

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Thanks!

FrancescoP — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 00:49:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: FrancescoP
Post title: Thanks!

I tried both versions a year ago. Just checking again if there's been any progress.

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | No need to get back to me

Samuel Murray — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 20:53:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: No need to get back to me

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
I can check again OmegaT and get back to you. [/quote]

There's no need. You said "I've always been dreaming of a CAT tool that it's free, customizable, light, and that runs on both Mac and Windows" and I assumed that you had already checked OmegaT and had found it to be sadly lacking.

But if you do take a second look, just make sure you get [url= [url removed] ]OmegaT[/url] (which is actively being developed) and not [url= [url removed] ]OmegaT+[/url] (whose author had forked from OmegaT many years ago and added some of his own customisations, some of which were eventually included in OmegaT as well).

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Heartsome and OmegaT

FrancescoP — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:42:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: FrancescoP
Post title: Heartsome and OmegaT

Didier,

you can find a review I wrote a year ago on Heartsome:

[url removed]

I haven't check back in a year, so maybe something has changed.

Samuel,

I can check again OmegaT and get back to you. What is your impression in the meanwhile? And if I may ask, what CAT tool do you use in your daily work?

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | And Heartsome Translation Studio?

Didier Briel — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:07:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Didier Briel
Post title: And Heartsome Translation Studio?

[quote]Samuel Murray wrote:

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
I've always been dreaming of a CAT tool that it's free, customizable, light, and that runs on both Mac and Window. [/quote]

What are your gripes about OmegaT?
[/quote]
And Heartsome Translation Studio, to be fair.

Didier

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | What are your gripes about OmegaT?

Samuel Murray — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 16:53:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: What are your gripes about OmegaT?

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
I've always been dreaming of a CAT tool that it's free, customizable, light, and that runs on both Mac and Window. [/quote]

What are your gripes about OmegaT?

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Thanks for your analysis!

FrancescoP — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 15:41:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: FrancescoP
Post title: Thanks for your analysis!

Samuel,

thank you so much for your feedback. I think all of these problems are easy fixes and I can add them to the backlog. What else do you think it would make Ocelot an attractive CAT tool for freelancers?

I've always been dreaming of a CAT tool that it's free, customizable, light, and that runs on both Mac and Window.

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Ocelot is not a CAT tool but an LQA tool

Samuel Murray — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 11:46:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: Ocelot is not a CAT tool but an LQA tool

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
The translation grid is very convenient and it's the same concept used by Trados, MemoQ, DejaVu and others. You can move very fast using the up and down arrow. [/quote]

No, in Trados 2015 and MemoQ, you can move to the next or previous sentence with an up or down arrow, but your cursor also ends up directly above or below where the cursor was in the previous segment, and you can start editing a segment (e.g. type immediately, or select words immediately) as soon as your cursor is in it.

Ocelot works like Excel (and e.g. Passolo) in that while you can move up and down to the previous or next segment, you have to perform additional actions to be able to start editing (and perform additional additional actions to be able to move to another segment again). In Ocelot, you have to double-click a target field, and then click again in the field (simply double-clicking once selects the segment somehow, but does not place a cursor in it).

The shortcut (in lieu of double-clicking) for activating a target field is F2, but it doesn't place the cursor, and I can't figure out if there is a shortcut to place the cursor. There doesn't seem to be a shortcut for "leaving" a segment (i.e. leaving the edit mode so that the up and down arrows move between segments again). Pressing Escape or pressing F2 again doesn't do it.

[quote]What I find interesting in this tool is the fact that has 2 targets: the original one, and the one with your edits. [/quote]

Yes, and the "original" column displays the edits in tracked changes. However, it only works for comparing the current target field with the target field as it was when the user opened the file. It does not track subsequent editing. Even if you define a new user ID ("profile"), it does not track subsequent editing.

[quote]I like the fact that you can flag mistakes on the fly and the Quality Evaluation criteria are fully configurable... [/quote]

Yes, there is a built-in LQI feature, but unfortunately the LQI comments (and error information) are not shown next to the segment that they pertain to, but in a separate pane on the other side of your screen.

It is clear to me now that this is an LQA tool (not a translation tool or an editing tool). A common translation feature like "copy source to target" is not present, but "reset updated target to original target" is.

The "LQI Grid" is a useful option -- it shows the LQA options as a grid in a separate window, and as you move from segment to segment, you can then apply LQA gradings by simply clicking on a cell. This is a huge potential time-saver. However, to add a comment, you again have to double-click the comment field before you can start to type. The LQI Grid feature is broken, by the way -- it adds the gradings to the current segment but any comments written by you are lost (not saved).

[quote]You can also quickly export the Quality Report directly from the tool.[/quote]

I could not find that feature...? To export the report would be a very important part of this tool. It should be a configurable export to e.g. Excel or HTML, so that users can customise it according to a particular client's actual LQA grid in Excel.

By the way, the LQA gradings are saved in the XLF file itself, when you save the XLF file. So the recipient would then simply open the XLF file in his Ocelot, to view the gradings.

==

The SDLXLIFF file that I tested did open in Trados 2015 afterwards, but all segments that I had edited with Ocelot returned critical errors (these errors make it impossible for me to edit those segments in Trados again, although I am able to see the text in the segments):

But I suppose that this is not a problem, since the purpose of the tool is not to *edit* an XLF file in such a way that the user can re-use it in the original program, but rather it is a tool to grade XLF files according to an LQA grid, and to make edits that are meant for display only (i.e. the translator can then view the edits on his own computer, but only in Ocelot).

[quote]It's Open Source, so can be improved by the community. [/quote]

Well, if you market it specifically as an LQA assistant, then there is some potential for it. But it needs to be made more user-friendly with regard to typing, editing, moving between segments etc, and obviously the LQI Grid feature has to be fixed so that it works. And you have to find a way to transfer the LQA grid (i.e. the grid definitions) between computers.

[quote]Also, I like the fact that you can flag mistakes on the fly...[/quote]

I think this is actually the main feature of the tool.

[Edited at 2016-12-22 11:59 GMT]

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | No problem

FrancescoP — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:38:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: FrancescoP
Post title: No problem

The translation grid is very convenient and it's the same concept used by Trados, MemoQ, DejaVu and others. You can move very fast using the up and down arrow. Here's a pick of the UI for you.

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What I find interesting in this tool is the fact that has 2 targets: the original one, and the one with your edits. It allows you to see what you changed during the review (sort of version compare).

Also, I like the fact that you can flag mistakes on the fly and the Quality Evaluation criteria are fully configurable (see screenshots). You can also quickly export the Quality Report directly from the tool.

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It's Open Source, so can be improved by the community.

[Modificato alle 2016-12-22 07:40 GMT]

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | @Francesco

Samuel Murray — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 22:45:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: @Francesco

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
It's an Open Source tool in its early stage. I'm interested in finding out how many freelance translators in the community have or are using it and what they think. [/quote]

Oh, okay. No, I've never heard of it (I think). I doubt if I'll ever use it, because it uses an Excel-style interface whereby you have to double-click each cell in order to edit its contents.

I hope you realise the smiley was implied in the "1981".

[Edited at 2016-12-21 22:45 GMT]

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Thanks for your feedback

FrancescoP — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 21:02:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: FrancescoP
Post title: Thanks for your feedback

Thanks for your feedback Samuel.

It's an Open Source tool in its early stage. I'm interested in finding out how many freelence translators in the community have or are using it and what they think.

Regards,

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool | Ocelot

Samuel Murray — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 20:58:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: Ocelot

[quote]FrancescoP wrote:
How many freelancers out there use Ocelot 2.2? Just curious. [/quote]

[url removed]

It's an XLIFF editor with a UI design from 1981.

Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool

FrancescoP — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:27:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Ocelot 2.2: Open Source CAT tool
Poster: FrancescoP

How many freelancers out there use Ocelot 2.2? Just curious.