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Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Agree regarding Espresso, but what about Pastey?

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 08:47:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: Agree regarding Espresso, but what about Pastey?

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:

Pastey is from the same developer as CafeTran Espresso. I cannot say anything about the quality of Pastey because I haven't tested it thoroughly.

However, I know that CafeTran Espresso was coded many years before Claude Code et al. existed. It is well-designed, extremely stable, and very fast (even on older hardware).

So no croissants dipped in the espresso... [/quote]

As I mentioned earlier, we’d better pay closer attention to software developed after 2024, and specifically from late 2025 to the present, because development is shifting massively toward "vibe coding" and agent-driven workflows. For about 6 months, software engineers can no longer even verify their code, as this generates such a workload that agent-assisted production loses all the meaning: the goal of accelerating production deployment and reducing production costs is canceled out by the considerable increase in the volume of checking work required. And sincerely, a great nomber of SWEs don’t like that tedious checking work.

Some veteran developers, like DHH, seem to have gone through a dark period of doubt before having such a revelation: it is time to turn the page on that bygone era when they enjoyed coding manually and rereading their code, to embrace happily the new, productivity-focused reality offered by AI agents.

It is still too early to judge this new reality, but I remain cautious. I think that developers like DHH should, at the very least, be aware of the responsibility they have towards their products, even if their working methods are not questioned. They should avoid making silly mistakes when using AI; and if such errors do occur, they must take responsibility for them. That is all I expect from them.

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Carefully crafted software

CafeTran Trainer — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 08:18:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Carefully crafted software

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:
Is this about pastry or about Pastey? [/quote]

The term "Pastry" evokes subtly "Pastey". And my underlying idea is that today, when any amateur can "bake" software at home using LLMs, a true software engineer should be (and is fully capable of) producing work far superior to that of a novice, even being assisted by AI agents. Agent-based workflows should not serve as an excuse to deliver software of merely "good enough" quality, with all those irregularities and unreliable features.

They should do everything possible to avoid such an irregularity, so as not to give the impression of an app vibe coded by an amateur.

The same applies to bakers and filmmakers. They must produce work that is far superior to what we create at home or with our smartphones. Otherwise, no one will pay for their products.
[/quote]

Pastey is from the same developer as CafeTran Espresso. I cannot say anything about the quality of Pastey because I haven't tested it thoroughly.

However, I know that CafeTran Espresso was coded many years before Claude Code et al. existed. It is well-designed, extremely stable, and very fast (even on older hardware).

So no croissants dipped in the espresso...

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Agree. AI outputs could be toxic, but enthusiasts are blinded by their enthusiasm to realize it

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 06:39:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: Agree. AI outputs could be toxic, but enthusiasts are blinded by their enthusiasm to realize it

[quote]MoonMartin wrote:

Baking is a misleading analogy, unless you enter the possibility that the pastries might be poisoned.
Besides being showered by idiotic posts and opinions on the internet (you know the one that had potential for creating a better world) by people who have no clue about anything, we will now also be drowning in dubious software produced by people that have no clue about what they are doing. (Not talking about Pastey here.)
Brave new world. [/quote]

Novice vibe coders who rely on "gut feeling" have absolutely no idea what their AI is producing in response to their prompts. As for software engineers, if they do not verify and fully understand their work, they cannot guarantee that their agents haven't left behind bugs or secretly slipped a backdoor into the software.

[Edited at 2026-09-30 06:40 GMT]

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Nice guy

MoonMartin — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 06:25:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: MoonMartin
Post title: Nice guy

[quote]The Shredder wrote: lol at the idea of anyone depending on Pastey for their work😱 [/quote]

I don't depend on it, it's just my cheap way of sometimes turning the table on the MT I get from customers and making a small profit.

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Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Baking software

MoonMartin — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 06:21:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: MoonMartin
Post title: Baking software

Baking is a misleading analogy, unless you enter the possibility that the pastries might be poisoned.
Besides being showered by idiotic posts and opinions on the internet (you know the one that had potential for creating a better world) by people who have no clue about anything, we will now also be drowning in dubious software produced by people that have no clue about what they are doing. (Not talking about Pastey here.)
Brave new world.

[Redigerad 2026-09-30 06:32 GMT]

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Pastry, Pastey

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 06:12:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: Pastry, Pastey

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:
Is this about pastry or about Pastey? [/quote]

The term "Pastry" evokes subtly "Pastey". And my underlying idea is that today, when any amateur can "bake" software at home using LLMs, a true software engineer should be (and is fully capable of) producing work far superior to that of a novice, even being assisted by AI agents. Agent-based workflows should not serve as an excuse to deliver software of merely "good enough" quality, with all those irregularities and unreliable features.

They should do everything possible to avoid such an irregularity, so as not to give the impression of an app vibe coded by an amateur.

The same applies to bakers and filmmakers. They must produce work that is far superior to what we create at home or with our smartphones. Otherwise, no one will pay for their products.

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Deleted

CafeTran Trainer — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 05:58:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Deleted

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[Edited at 2026-09-30 06:11 GMT]

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | True

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 05:05:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: True

[quote]Daryo wrote:
Right is!

Making a movie is also accessible to absolutely everyone with a smartphone and some editing software. For quite some time already.

But somehow that didn't result in a plethora of fantastic amateur movies wiping the floor with commercial movies at festivals ...
[/quote]

Agree. For the cake, even though we can make homemade cakes with the best recipes from our mom, we may still feel like buying delicious pastries from the bakery.

It's the same thing with movies. Even though you can watch amateur videos on YouTube, you certainly want to see films made by real artists.

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Making a movie is also accessible to absolutely everyone

Daryo — Tue, 29 Sep 2026 15:19:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: Daryo
Post title: Making a movie is also accessible to absolutely everyone

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

[quote]Michael Beijer wrote:
Thanks for the link to the very interesting video! We are definitely living in interesting times. [/quote]

Yes, when I think that today we are all capable of “baking” software, an application or a website at home, at our fingertips thanks to Claude, just like we prepare homemade pastries, and share or sell them as we would at flea markets, village fairs or garden parties, I find it really fun.

We can create all these digital "pastries" using our own recipes, whether drawn from our own experience or handed down by our mom, that wonderful mom of ours. It’s really fantastic.

[Edited at 2026-09-28 11:34 GMT] [/quote]

Right is!

Making a movie is also accessible to absolutely everyone with a smartphone and some editing software. For quite some time already.

But somehow that didn't result in a plethora of fantastic amateur movies wiping the floor with commercial movies at festivals ...

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Creating an app has become as accessible as baking a homemade cake

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Mon, 28 Sep 2026 11:33:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: Creating an app has become as accessible as baking a homemade cake

[quote]Michael Beijer wrote:
Thanks for the link to the very interesting video! We are definitely living in interesting times. [/quote]

Yes, when I think that today we are all capable of “baking” software, an application or a website at home, at our fingertips thanks to Claude, just like we prepare homemade pastries, and share or sell them as we would at flea markets, village fairs or garden parties, I find it really fun.

We can create all these digital "pastries" using our own recipes, whether drawn from our own experience or handed down by our mom, that wonderful mom of ours. It’s really fantastic.

[Edited at 2026-09-28 11:34 GMT]

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Interesting times

Michael Beijer — Mon, 28 Sep 2026 10:52:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: Michael Beijer
Post title: Interesting times

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

For those interested in software engineering, I invite you to watch an excellent talk by DHH, David Heinemeier Hansson, the legendary Danish programmer best known for creating Ruby on Rails, a highly influential web development framework.

He basically make a statement to burry handwritten code, keeping the happy memories for decades of software development involving manual coding.

But DHH speaks from the perspective of a career software engineer. He has already internalized the knowledge needed to provide AI agents with the right instructions and specifications, steer them in the right direction, make sound engineering decisions, and let the models do the work.

Furthermore, another reality is that AI agents very often make mistakes with confidence. Beginners lacking a solid foundation, as well as less experienced junior software engineers, still require robust knowledge and expertise to develop the discernment needed to spot AI errors.

youtube.com/watch?si=6FsfJXS22mk52gyu&v=vDjW_dRyKXY&feature=youtu.be [/quote]

Thanks for the link to the very interesting video! We are definitely living in interesting times.

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | DHH

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Sun, 27 Sep 2026 05:56:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: DHH

For those interested in software engineering, I invite you to watch an excellent talk by DHH, David Heinemeier Hansson, the legendary Danish programmer best known for creating Ruby on Rails, a highly influential web development framework.

He basically make a statement to burry handwritten code, keeping the happy memories for decades of software development involving manual coding.

But DHH speaks from the perspective of a career software engineer. He has already internalized the knowledge needed to provide AI agents with the right instructions and specifications, steer them in the right direction, make sound engineering decisions, and let the models do the work.

Furthermore, another reality is that AI agents very often make mistakes with confidence. Beginners lacking a solid foundation, as well as less experienced junior software engineers, still require robust knowledge and expertise to develop the discernment needed to spot AI errors.

youtube.com/watch?si=6FsfJXS22mk52gyu&v=vDjW_dRyKXY&feature=youtu.be

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Pastey - a software built since 2025

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Sun, 27 Sep 2026 05:02:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: Pastey - a software built since 2025

My sincere advice: we must be very careful when using software built after 2024-2025, especially from 2026 onwards, when SWEs begin to massively adopt agentic workflows. Before 2025, SWEs still had the good practice of checking code, but now, with agentic work, a fairly large number of SWEs are starting to abandon careful verification of their product. Because AI agents have produced so much code that it becomes impossible to verify, even though the agents' work is not perfect. As a result, we end up with much less robust software, with potentially many bugs to spot over time.

That said, if you have software built before this period, hold onto it. It may well be the last software with fewer issues before AI agents become truly reliable.

[Edited at 2026-09-27 05:03 GMT]

Irregular and unreliable Pastey | Supervertaler Sidekick: a system-wide toolbox for translators

Michael Beijer — Sat, 26 Sep 2026 21:08:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Irregular and unreliable Pastey
Poster: Michael Beijer
Post title: Supervertaler Sidekick: a system-wide toolbox for translators

Hi guys,

My Supervertaler Sidekick tool does pretty much everything Pastey does (and a whole lot more), in case you want to try something similar. It's free and open source. You do need to bring your own API keys, though, for MT and AI providers.

Info: [url removed] + [url removed]

"Select text anywhere in Windows – in a CAT tool, a browser, a PDF, an email – press `, and act on it: look it up across a dozen terminology sources, run an AI prompt over it, convert its case, wrap it in quotes, or paste a snippet in its place."

Installation is currently a little bit fiddly for non-technical users, but I will be releasing an installer soon.

Michael

Is the RTF file format still alive? | Yes

Samuel Murray — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 14:16:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Is the RTF file format still alive?
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: Yes

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:
I was wondering how important RTF still is these days, with nearly all office file formats based on zipped XML.
Do you still receive source files in RTF format? [/quote]
Yes, some CAT tools export review files in RTF format (and agencies then send these to me), although I'm not sure if they are truly RTF files or simply DOC files with an "RTF" file extension, and I'm not sure if those CAT tools would accept the file back if it came back in DOCX instead of RTF. Also, as an aside, I sometimes get DOCX files with a "DOC" file extension.

Is the RTF file format still alive? | Widely used

kd42 — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 09:34:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Is the RTF file format still alive?
Poster: kd42
Post title: Widely used

It is widely used in publishing and industrial applications, often a saver in DTP. Why do you ask?

Is the RTF file format still alive?

CafeTran Trainer — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 08:55:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: Is the RTF file format still alive?
Poster: CafeTran Trainer

RTF was once a very important file format, supported by Microsoft, Apple, and many other companies. In the CAT world, it was a significant intermediary file format for Déjà Vu and other tools.

I was wondering how important RTF still is these days, with nearly all office file formats based on zipped XML.

Do you still receive source files in RTF format?

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | URL shorteners

CafeTran Trainer — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 06:02:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: URL shorteners

[quote]Michael Beijer wrote:

(High-quality image here: [url removed] )

[/quote]

[url removed] or [url removed]

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | Supervertaler for Word - Microsoft Word task pane add-in

Michael Beijer — Mon, 14 Sep 2026 21:55:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: Michael Beijer
Post title: Supervertaler for Word - Microsoft Word task pane add-in

Hi guys,

I'm working on an experimental version of Supervertaler called Supervertaler for Word, which lives inside Microsoft Word as a task pane add-in. Take a look:

[url removed]

(High-quality image here: [url removed] )

Latest version:

[Edited at 2026-09-14 23:30 GMT]

[Edited at 2026-09-14 23:31 GMT]

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | IDML XML structure

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:55:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: IDML XML structure

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:

Well, formatting does matter, but it's invariant, so the formatting tags can be hidden.

[/quote]

Yes. But, I would look at the XML structure before doing anything. Just to be sure. 😉

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | Formatting does matter

CafeTran Trainer — Tue, 08 Sep 2026 11:16:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Formatting does matter

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

Sometimes, a tag may correspond to a run - if it is your case, that will mean your segement is riddled with runs! It is weird.

Check the xml file of the text to spot the cause. You may need to clean Unicode or corrupted text before segmenting your text. 😉 [/quote]

It's real formatting in an IDML file imported in Trados. Fancy colours and bold formatting etc. [/quote] [/quote]
By grouping tags around invariant items like position numbers between brackets a much cleaner view can be achieved. [/quote]
… this is indeed a convenient way to handle tags. [/quote]

Well, formatting does matter, but it's invariant, so the formatting tags can be hidden.

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | If formating doesn’t matter…

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Tue, 08 Sep 2026 09:55:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: If formating doesn’t matter…

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

Sometimes, a tag may correspond to a run - if it is your case, that will mean your segement is riddled with runs! It is weird.

Check the xml file of the text to spot the cause. You may need to clean Unicode or corrupted text before segmenting your text. 😉 [/quote]

It's real formatting in an IDML file imported in Trados. Fancy colours and bold formatting etc. [/quote] [/quote]
By grouping tags around invariant items like position numbers between brackets a much cleaner view can be achieved. [/quote]
… this is indeed a convenient way to handle tags.

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | Weeding the forest

CafeTran Trainer — Tue, 08 Sep 2026 09:19:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Weeding the forest

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

Sometimes, a tag may correspond to a run - if it is your case, that will mean your segement is riddled with runs! It is weird.

Check the xml file of the text to spot the cause. You may need to clean Unicode or corrupted text before segmenting your text. 😉 [/quote]

It's real formatting in an IDML file imported in Trados. Fancy colours and bold formatting etc. [/quote] [/quote]

By grouping tags around invariant items like position numbers between brackets a much cleaner view can be achieved.

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | So you have no choice...just accept it

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Tue, 08 Sep 2026 08:51:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: So you have no choice...just accept it

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

Sometimes, a tag may correspond to a run - if it is your case, that will mean your segement is riddled with runs! It is weird.

Check the xml file of the text to spot the cause. You may need to clean Unicode or corrupted text before segmenting your text. 😉 [/quote]

It's real formatting in an IDML file imported in Trados. Fancy colours and bold formatting etc. [/quote]

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | Real formatting

CafeTran Trainer — Tue, 08 Sep 2026 08:35:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Real formatting

[quote]Li-Hsiang Hsu wrote:

Sometimes, a tag may correspond to a run - if it is your case, that will mean your segement is riddled with runs! It is weird.

Check the xml file of the text to spot the cause. You may need to clean Unicode or corrupted text before segmenting your text. 😉 [/quote]

It's real formatting in an IDML file imported in Trados. Fancy colours and bold formatting etc.

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | Needs Unicode cleaning?

Li-Hsiang Hsu — Tue, 08 Sep 2026 08:32:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: Li-Hsiang Hsu
Post title: Needs Unicode cleaning?

Sometimes, a tag may correspond to a run - if it is your case, that will mean your segement is riddled with runs! It is weird.

Check the xml file of the text to spot the cause. You may need to clean Unicode or corrupted text before segmenting your text. 😉

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | Tag salad

CafeTran Trainer — Mon, 07 Sep 2026 06:17:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Tag salad

I'm missing a way to get tags out of segments like these:

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | aha

Michael Beijer — Tue, 01 Sep 2026 13:06:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: Michael Beijer
Post title: aha

[quote]Joakim Braun wrote:

[/quote]

Interesting. Yes, this was what I was thinking of making. Of course, you could just use paragraph segmentation in a regular CAT tool, but this would not allow you to store the individual sentences as TM pairs.

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | Interesting

CafeTran Trainer — Tue, 01 Sep 2026 10:05:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Interesting

[quote]Joakim Braun wrote:

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:

Though aiming at macOS this solution was created in Python rather than using Core Text et al. [/quote]

What I'm suggesting is not a better way to merge segments, it's editing them inline with full segmentation data preserved. This, with segment linking stored in style attributes of attributed text and drawing the overlays with the segmentation info, can probably only be done using platform-native text systems.

[Bearbeitet am 2026-09-01 10:01 GMT] [/quote]

Okay, I’ll wait for your proof of concept;)

What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools? | But

Joakim Braun — Tue, 01 Sep 2026 10:01:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: What's the #1 feature you've been missing in CAT tools?
Poster: Joakim Braun
Post title: But

[quote]CafeTran Trainer wrote:

Though aiming at macOS this solution was created in Python rather than using Core Text et al. [/quote]

What I'm suggesting is not a better way to merge segments, it's editing them inline with full segmentation data preserved. This, with segment linking stored in style attributes of attributed text and drawing the overlays with the segmentation info, can probably only be done using platform-native text systems.

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