Glossary entry

Arabic term or phrase:

مرجع شيعي

English translation:

highest/top/supreme (ranking) religious Shi'a authority

Added to glossary by ena
Jun 24, 2005 13:59
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Dr. Wathib Jabouri Jun 26, 2005:
To Ms. Aisha Maniar: The word "reference" is also a noun of a person who is a source of knowledge, in Arabic "al-Marge'a" or "Assanad". Please refer to al-Mawrid or any other dictionary.
Dr. Wathib Jabouri Jun 24, 2005:
A She'ite Reference is a member of the She'ite Scholars Group "al-Hawzah al-�Marji'iyah" (literally: the Reference Council). It is not necessarily for him to be always the �supreme or top of this council. He is regarded as a reference for people to refe

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highest/top/supreme (ranking) religious Shi'a authority

That's what it is in the Shi'a religious hierarchy, however if the term appears in your text as you have it above, then I would just translate it as "Ayatollah (Al-)Sistanti", as that is how he is most commonly known in English.

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Note added at 48 mins (2005-06-24 14:47:45 GMT)
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whoops ... SistaNI
Peer comment(s):

agree Mohammed Hussin
12 mins
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agree Rania KH
28 mins
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agree Nancy Eweiss
39 mins
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agree AbdulHameed Al Hadidi
40 mins
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agree Dina Abdo
1 hr
thank you
agree Maureen Millington-Brodie
2 hrs
thank you
neutral Dr. Wathib Jabouri : A She'ite Reference is a member of the She'ite Scholars Group "al-Hawzah al-‎Marji'iyah" (literally: the Reference Council). It is not necessarily for him to be always the ‎supreme or top of this council. He is regarded as a reference for people to refe
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thanks for the additional information. 'Shi'a religious authority' would work just as well but a person cannot be a 'reference' in English as a title
neutral Randa Farhat : agree with Dr.Wathib, if his title includes المرجع الأعلى then you put the top or highest or supreme
1 day 6 hrs
thanks - yes, Shi'a religious authority without the previous adjectives would work better
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thanks very much Aisha"
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most revered/Supreme Shiite cleric

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agree Dina Abdo
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thanks, AMT :)
neutral Dr. Wathib Jabouri : A She'ite Reference is a member of the She'ite Scholars Group "al-Hawzah al-‎Marji'iyah" (literally: the Reference Council). It is not necessarily for him to be always the ‎supreme or top of this council. He is regarded as a reference for people to refe
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Thanks, Dr. Jabouri. I understand your words perfectly , however, I believe in this very context Sistani's supreme position should be noted. If she didn't mention his name: As-Sistani,I'd not say supreme or most revered.
neutral Hassan Al-Haifi (wordforword) : It is imperative to note that ther is no clergy and there are no clerics in Islam. Yet, I see even Moslems fall into the trap of western descriptions of Islamic religious scholars or leaders as "clerics".
1 day 11 hrs
:) I believe clergy doesn't necessarily mean sacerdotalism!! All religions inclduing Islam have some form of clergy (the offlicial class that set rules) not necessarily sacerdotal class(gates to God).Your view, however, is so appreciated.Thanks, word.:)
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She'ite Reference

A She'ite Reference is a member of the She'ite Scholars Group "al-Hawzah al-‎Marji'iyah" (literally: the Reference Council). It is not necessarily for him to be always the ‎supreme or top of this council. He is regarded as a reference for people to refer to for ‎religious advice, interpretation and judgment “ijtihad”.‎
Peer comment(s):

agree Randa Farhat : Shiite Religious Authority
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agree AhmedAMS
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A Shiite Authoritative Reference for Religious Opinions

A scholar that one reverts to for difficult religious or jurisdicitional issues. In the case of the Esteemed Sistani, he would be the ultimate authority to refer to.
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agree Randa Farhat : Shiite Religious Authority
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