对于“turned down",是不是这样翻译最符合原文？

Phil Hand wrote:

This discussion over what word to use for "happiness" reminds me how much I value translation for the way it forces you to really think through every concept. The notion of happiness that the author of this book uses is a very personal, interior feeling. I agree that 幸福 would be a problematic translation, because 幸福 often refers to external circumstances, and the author here is specifically rejecting that sense.

Ultimately, I suspect that the sense of happiness he's using is nonsensical, or incoherent. And one of the ways we can think about the problems with it is by translating it into Chinese and seeing which words we can use and still make sense.

So 喜悦 is a good candidate, but if we use 喜悦 in connection with Buddhist concepts, it's going to sound weird. 高兴 would be hard to use because it's usually a reaction to external events, not a feeling. 快乐? 开心? I suspect that 快乐 would be the best fit.

Phil Hand wrote:

This discussion over what word to use for "happiness" reminds me how much I value translation for the way it forces you to really think through every concept. The notion of happiness that the author of this book uses is a very personal, interior feeling. I agree that 幸福 would be a problematic translation, because 幸福 often refers to external circumstances, and the author here is specifically rejecting that sense.

Ultimately, I suspect that the sense of happiness he's using is nonsensical, or incoherent. And one of the ways we can think about the problems with it is by translating it into Chinese and seeing which words we can use and still make sense.

So 喜悦 is a good candidate, but if we use 喜悦 in connection with Buddhist concepts, it's going to sound weird. 高兴 would be hard to use because it's usually a reaction to external events, not a feeling. 快乐? 开心? I suspect that 快乐 would be the best fit.

jyuan_us wrote:

unless you want to translate for fun.

我们以翻译为业的人，做商务翻译才是正途。这种太难的文章不做也罢。即使你拿到了单子，做起来也太费劲了。

如果不给我正常费率3倍的价钱，我是不会碰这种题材的。耽误不起那个时间。

jyuan_us wrote:

unless you want to translate for fun.

如果不给我正常费率3倍的价钱，我是不会碰这种题材的。耽误不起那个时间。

Phil Hand wrote:

快乐? 开心? I suspect that 快乐 would be the best fit.

Li Jie wrote:
只是有些帖子的语言刺激了我脆弱的神经，让我感到很受伤、很难堪，所以在当时的环境下有所回应。我并不想在别人开心的日子给人添堵。也请有些发帖人想想别人的感受。不再回应任何让我不开心的帖。

Li Jie wrote:

原文链接：http://site.douban.com/douban-read/widget/notes/14184535/note/296791850/

来吧，得到幸福

“幸福是一种灾难”，诗人兰特这样写道。乍看之下，我有些困惑，接着便有醍醐灌顶般的轻松和解脱。颠覆幸福这一概念登时让我觉得非常幸福。

幸福的产生可能并不久远，但自此对幸福的执著我想大概毁了很多人的生活吧。史前的人类祖先是否有“幸福”（并非满足了基本需求后的感受）这种概念，很值得怀疑。身边有几日的食粮，屋外又没有豺狼，男男女女的普通猿人大抵就很幸福了吧，即便用我们的标准来衡量也不外如此。而他们却浑然不觉。是否幸福根本不是一个问题。没有人必须达到幸福。
。。。。。。

Ying Wang wrote:


只顾抓住一个词不放，以致忽略了欣赏您的译文和您的付出。如果您感觉受到伤害，请接收我的歉意。

wherestip wrote:



Same here. I was actually trying to be nice. I wouldn't post that much if I didn't want to help.

I tried to get on board with Li Jie's version, but that wasn't welcomed. Then I tried to talk her out of translating the whole darn thing. But obviously that was seen as insincere.

What's a guy to do? I think there's a severe breakdown in communication. I've been living in the U.S. for too long.

J.H. Wang wrote:




否则的话，人与人之间的交流就不可能了。

但是，的确有时候也会碰到费解的地方。

Ying Wang wrote:

只顾抓住一个词不放，以致忽略了欣赏您的译文和您的付出。如果您感觉受到伤害，请接收我的歉意。

QHE wrote:


Li Jie,
非常理解你的心情，其实大家在这里的讨论都是针对问题本身而言的，看一下参与讨论的同行素质，谁会有意伤害别人呢？你自己最了解自己，你的认真执着大家都不难看到，而且应该学习。

我们这边的讨论会，经常是剑拔弩张的，“敌对双方”如果放在中国可能会永逝绝交世代为敌。可是这里会一散，双方即刻谈笑风声，好像什么都没发生。我刚开始总奇怪怎么情绪能变这么快，其实他们是就事论事。目的是解决问题。但是他们的开诚布公，直言不讳，也是常常有助于解决问题.

祝你节日开心快乐！



[Edited at 2013-10-02 01:05 GMT]