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Thread poster: Alan Wang
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倾斜 May 18, 2014

Loise wrote:

Fargoer wrote:

其实，合同中之所以使用“reasonable ” 这样的措辞，就是要规避繁琐的举证责任。也就是说，只要我可以合理推断存在这样的风险，我就有权中止合作。无需给出确凿无疑的证据。这是对控方有利的一种措辞。



这就是这句话让我皱眉头的地方了，我想象自己是签合同的一方：只要我可以合理推断存在这样的风险，就有权中止合作。分明是让“我”占便宜的条款。若换了位置：只要对方可以合理推断存在这样的风险，就有权中止与我的合作——那我得好好地考虑是否同意这样的条款，是否要请求换个字眼。





[Edited at 2014-05-18 09:37 GMT]


合同保护交易双方的利益，双方权利应该平等。但现实中保护买家的利益和保护卖家的利益困难程度有很大差别。对于卖家来讲，只要按时收到货款就万事大吉。但买家的利益则有很多晦暗不清的地方。货品质量的辨别需要一定的时间和条件。所以合同上向买家偏斜往往是必要的，卖家也心甘情愿。譬如，我们在商店买电器，商家会做出一定期限内无理由退货的承诺。这似乎对商家不公平。但商家也情愿这样做，因为消费者利益得到充分保障，买得放心，才会放心地买。

[Edited at 2014-05-18 11:54 GMT]
 
Loise
Loise
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同意:) May 18, 2014

Fargoer wrote:

Loise wrote:

Fargoer wrote:

其实，合同中之所以使用“reasonable ” 这样的措辞，就是要规避繁琐的举证责任。也就是说，只要我可以合理推断存在这样的风险，我就有权中止合作。无需给出确凿无疑的证据。这是对控方有利的一种措辞。



这就是这句话让我皱眉头的地方了，我想象自己是签合同的一方：只要我可以合理推断存在这样的风险，就有权中止合作。分明是让“我”占便宜的条款。若换了位置：只要对方可以合理推断存在这样的风险，就有权中止与我的合作——那我得好好地考虑是否同意这样的条款，是否要请求换个字眼。





[Edited at 2014-05-18 09:37 GMT]


合同保护交易双方的利益，双方权利应该平等。但现实中保护买家的利益和保护卖家的利益困难程度有很大差别。对于卖家来讲，只要按时收到货款就万事大吉。但买家的利益则有很多晦暗不清的地方。货品质量的辨别需要一定的时间和条件。所以合同上向买家偏斜往往是必要的，卖家也心甘情愿。譬如，我们在商店买电器，商家会做出一定期限内无理由退货的承诺。这似乎对商家不公平。但商家也情愿这样做，因为消费者利益得到充分保障，买得放心，才会放心地买。

[Edited at 2014-05-18 11:54 GMT]


 
Alan Wang
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That explains a lot. May 18, 2014

Thanks for the link.
But I did not come up with such a wording. I told the client that I think "postal decision" is short for a decision reached by postal vote, and i have translated accordingly. (以邮寄投票方式作出决议).
"so the postal procedure was not initiated", 只是译为“未启动相关程序”。

汉语中，相关这两个字真的很方便，适当用用有好处。只要不像那些同声传译大神那样，使用的过多，以至于一句话... See more
Thanks for the link.
But I did not come up with such a wording. I told the client that I think "postal decision" is short for a decision reached by postal vote, and i have translated accordingly. (以邮寄投票方式作出决议).
"so the postal procedure was not initiated", 只是译为“未启动相关程序”。

汉语中，相关这两个字真的很方便，适当用用有好处。只要不像那些同声传译大神那样，使用的过多，以至于一句话中，除了这两个字，几乎听不出其他意思。

Fargoer wrote:
根据您给出的上下文，我猜这里的“postal decision” 是“信函决定书（或裁定书）”，而“postal precedure”是“函告程序”（大概是起草决定书、送交邮局投递、存档备案等程序吧？）。

参考下面链接中关于“postal decision”的说明。

http://www.patas.gov.uk/tmaadjudicators/tmayourhearing.htm

[Edited at 2014-05-18 11:24 GMT]

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