Apr 23, 2008 11:39
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Russian term

преподаватели (вуза)

Russian to English Social Sciences Human Resources
С учетом штатных совместителей в вузах работает X преподавателей...

Как еще, кроме faculty, можно назвать всех преподавателей вуза?

Discussion

Marina Mrouga Apr 23, 2008:
ничего против faculty (member) не имею, несмотря на дискуссию
Mikhail Kropotov Apr 23, 2008:
В т.ч. в комментарии к ответу ув. Vitals.
Mikhail Kropotov Apr 23, 2008:
Ув. ayast, см. мои ссылки.
Oleksandr Yastremskyi Apr 23, 2008:
what's wrong with faculty? if it ain't broken, don't fix it
Mikhail Kropotov Apr 23, 2008:
Попробуйте также переставить местами faculty из предыдущего вопроса и instructors из этого :)
Arkadi Burkov (asker) Apr 23, 2008:
я думал над этим вариантом, но, мне кажется, instructors не подходит. См. из Американы - (штатный) преподаватель В университете или колледже занимает должность на ступеньку ниже должности старшего преподавателя [ assistant professor ], обычно работает над докторской диссертацией. Руководит лабораторным практикумом, ведет практические занятия, оценивает экзаменационные работы. Назначается президентом вуза [ president ] по представлению заведующего кафедрой [ director of department ] и декана [ dean ]. Во многих вузах на этой должности разрешено работать не более 8-9 лет, по истечении которых следует повышение либо увольнение. И из вебстера - one that instructs ; teacher ; especially a college teacher below professorial rank

Proposed translations

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instructors

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Я, в целом, не согласен, но попробуйте instructional staff

INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF

Professor Robert L. Taylor received his Ph.D. in Statistics from Florida State University in 1971. He is a Fellow and Life Member of the American Statistical Association and Fellow of the Institute of Mathematical Statistics. He has taught at the University of South Carolina...
http://virtual.clemson.edu/groups/mathsci/ap/statistics/inst...

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UM Research Resources: Overview of UM Research Activity

The University's instructional staff numbers about 4800, with a non-instructional staff 26000, for a total employment of 30800. It awards about 9950 degrees ...
http://www.research.umich.edu/proposals/proposal_dev/um_reso...

UM Housing Services - Academic Services and Programs

Residents can invite any member of the University's instructional staff (professors, Graduate Student Instructors, academic advisors) to be their guest at ...
http://www.housing.umich.edu/services/acadserv/acadserv.html
Peer comment(s):

disagree Andrey Belousov (X) : кроме этого есть еще professors, assistant lecturers, doctors, etc. - все хне впишешь./ Sup, buddy? I supported someone who, I thought, was correct....
29 mins
I added "instructional staff." Ease up on the disagrees, fella.
agree Rachel Douglas : "instructional staff" is fine; only it involves the same construction troubles as I noted for "teaching staff".
1 hr
Yes, it would make us add "members of..." Thank you, Rachel
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Спасибо (решил использовать instructional staff)."
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14 mins

Academic Staff

Пишу Вам как один из них... :)

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или personnel - смотря, как Вам надо (амер. или брит.)

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имею в виду Academic Personnel

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очень редко бывает academic rank personnel. о-очень редко
Peer comment(s):

agree Sergei Vasin
5 mins
спасибо
agree Andrey Belousov (X)
16 mins
спасибо
neutral Mikhail Kropotov : К academic staff относится также administrative staff, см. напр. www.uwsa.edu/acss/asreps/index.htm. Да? Вот, пожалуйста, смотрите также сюда: http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/pages/view.asp?page=9370
18 mins
может, в указанном универе так и есть, но в обиходе и официально среди нас, преподавателей, используется именно эта фраза
agree Oleksandr Yastremskyi : to Mr.Kropotov: no it does not - academic staff преподавательский состав, штат ( особенно при наличии противопоставления административному или техническому персоналу )
26 mins
видимо, есть исключения, но общий вариант Academic Staff
agree Serhiy Tkachuk : exactly! я тоже был одним из них когда-то :)
58 mins
благодарю, коллега по нелегкому труду!
agree Marina Mrouga : или faculty (member) Согласна на оба варианта - тоже как один из них :-))
3 hrs
yep
neutral Rachel Douglas : "Academic staff" can refer to academic status and include research-only personnel./Not theoretical; I grew up on a univ campus, my parents = univ teachers, I know people who are non-teaching acad staff.
12 hrs
Once again, let me emphasize that this is the active phrase among us, university faculty members. So, please, bear in mind that I am giving the "live" expression, as opposed the theoretical, dictionary-like. With all due respect to your proposed version.
agree Irina Chamritski
18 hrs
thank you
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20 mins

lecturers (also tuitors) or instructors

these are the terms for the teaching staff at universities
Peer comment(s):

disagree Vitals : кроме этого есть еще professors, assistant lecturers, doctors, etc. - все хне впишешь
5 mins
agree Armida Alvandyan
8 hrs
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49 mins

teachers

"Lecturers" and "instructors" are junior teaching staff, but everybody up to and including a full professor is a "teacher", if indeed they do teach. In the context, nobody's going to think you mean a kindergarten teacher. But if plain "teachers" makes you very uncomfortable, you could write "teaching staff", except that makes the sentence construction more difficult... "members of the teaching staff" or something.
Peer comment(s):

agree Mikhail Kropotov
32 mins
Thank you.
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2 hrs

professors

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2 hrs

postsecondary teachers

Acc. to the US Depratment of Labor:
Postsecondary teachers instruct students in a wide variety of academic and vocational subjects beyond the high school level. Most of theses students are working toward a degree, but many others are studying for a certificate or certification to improve their knowledge or career skills. Postsecondary teachers include college and university faculty, postsecondary career and technical education teachers, and graduate teaching assistants. Teaching in any venue involves forming a lesson plan, presenting material to students, responding to students learning needs, and evaluating student progress. In addition to instruction, postsecondary teachers, particularly those at 4-year colleges and universities, also perform a significant amount of research in the subject they teach. They must also keep up with new developments in their field and may consult with government, business, nonprofit, and community organizations.

College and university faculty make up the majority of postsecondary teachers. Faculty usually are organized into departments or divisions, based on academic subject or field. They typically teach several different related courses in their subject—algebra, calculus, and statistics, for example. They may instruct undergraduate or graduate students, or both. College and university faculty may give lectures to several hundred students in large halls, lead small seminars, or supervise students in laboratories. They prepare lectures, exercises, and laboratory experiments; grade exams and papers; and advise and work with students individually. In universities, they also supervise graduate students’ teaching and research. College faculty work with an increasingly varied student population made up of growing shares of part-time, older, and culturally and racially diverse students.

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