Jan 25, 2013 10:38
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English term

for the sack

English Art/Literary General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
"It got bad after you went to Oxford and stopped coming to the hotel I was getting like one of these battered wives you read about in the papers these days only I wasn't a wife. And he started coming to the hotel and carrying on many a time I thought I was for the sack. But then one day somebody came to the hotel. A tall man in a tweed jacket and the second time he talked to me with his level steady gaze I felt he had been sent by God himself..."

The text is from a British autobiographical novel where the author quotes a letter from an old acquaintance he hasn't heard of since 30 years. The writer of the letter - a woman managing a boarding house - is talking of the days after the author left her "hotel". She had a rough lover in those days - post-war London, in 1950 -, a man who usually didn't come to the place: the woman used to see her outside the boarding house. The tall man in the tweed jacket apparently saves her from her old life, they marry and move elsewhere...

The language of the letter is, unlike the rest of the book, not proper but still understandable, and I assume that the "for the sack" part must be a kind of saying, which I couldn't find out

Discussion

vitaminBcomplex (asker) Jan 25, 2013:
now that i read Jack's answer, it makes sense: the rough lover changes attitude and starts coming to the hotel, whereas during the author's stay he was not in the habit to come: the lovers met elsewhere
vitaminBcomplex (asker) Jan 25, 2013:
the image that comes to my mind is a gangster-like instance of putting someone in a sack and beat him/her - to death, perhaps, or throw the person in the water...
Vaddy Peters Jan 25, 2013:
doomed, no escape
Carol Gullidge Jan 25, 2013:
@ Catherine That was my instinct too, given the context. But, "for the sack" doesn't normally have that meaning, hence my doubts, and query regarding the relationship of the people concerned.

BUT, I have found in the Chambers dictionary: "the sack: a form of death penalty in which the criminal was condemned to be sewn up in a sack and drowned". May have some connection...?
vitaminBcomplex (asker) Jan 25, 2013:
well, no, the lover is not her employer. he is a man she knew from wartime Italy (the man a soldier, the woman of Italian origin). my instincts tell me too of an act, at least, close to killing - clearly the man beats her. but again, i couldn't find any support.
Catharine Cellier-Smart Jan 25, 2013:
Agree with Carol, but Instinctively, given the context here, for me it means "I thought I was a goner" as "I thought he was going to kill me". But I can't find anything online to support my 'instinct'.
Carol Gullidge Jan 25, 2013:
hard to tell without knowing the relationships Normally, "ready for the sack" or "to hit the sack" mean going to bed, as in retiring for the night. Of course, "for the sack" can also mean about to be given the sack (as in dismissed). Neither of which quite fits here, UNLESS the 'rough lover' is also her employer, in which case, the meaning is probably fairly clear.

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about to lose my job

This interpretation makes the best sense to me. The woman is employed as the boarding-house manager. The fact that her rough lover "started coming to the hotel and carrying on" would upset the tenants and might cause her employer to fire her.
"Sack" in the sense of "Bed" is US English, not often used here.
Peer comment(s):

agree Terry Richards : Yes, that's how I read it too.
3 mins
Thank you.
agree Charles Davis
22 mins
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agree Carol Gullidge : yes of course: it wouldn't necessarily be the rough lover who was about to sack her
49 mins
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agree Edith Kelly
2 hrs
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agree Phong Le
2 days 16 hrs
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