Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
proxy (ironical)
English answer:
apparent but not real
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English term
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proxy business rival
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Journalism
In a text about the Indian Licence Raj system:
It was, however, possible to play the Licence Raj system as a newcomer, as evidenced by the one of Tata’s ***proxy business rivals, the Ambanis.
Could you please explain what "Proxy business rivals" means?
Thanks!
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It was, however, possible to play the Licence Raj system as a newcomer, as evidenced by the one of Tata’s ***proxy business rivals, the Ambanis.
Could you please explain what "Proxy business rivals" means?
Thanks!
f
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Stephanie Ezrol
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French to English, English to English
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Works in: English, French to English, French Middle (ca.1400-1600) to English
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apparent but not real business rival
The term proxy is being used here with an ironical meaning. Proxy normally has a specific legal type meaning -- of one who stands for another --, or something similar in an exercise. Here I believe it is being used in a public relations, or a political type meaning of a business having an apparent rival so as to game the system.
THIS IS A SIMILAR USE IN A POLITICAL CONTEXT:
He knows that the real fight is in India. But to fight that battle he needs a proxy rival in the US. Fortunately for Natwar, Paul Volcker is an American. So he could easily give an ideological spin to a complicated issue of corruption, international morality and national embarrassment.
http://www.gurumurthy.net/articledisplay.pl?2005-11-08
A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT POLICIAL USE
Reports also cited
Kakodkar’s statement that “there was no clause banning any new nuclear test by India in
the civil nuclear agreement between the country and the US.” Such comments are
comparable to any other defiant nuclear power in the world; the most significant
difference seems to be that India has the potential to be a proxy rival against China and to
a lesser degree in the war on terror. Taking into account the fact that India does not take
part in the PSI and never supported the U.S. in the war against Iraq, Kakodkar’s remarks
beg the question: What type of ally is India truly? Is our relationship merely the
embodiment of the adage ‘my enemy’s enemy is my friend’?
http://www.spacetransparency.org/Space_Transparency/Home_fil...
THIS IS A SIMILAR USE IN A POLITICAL CONTEXT:
He knows that the real fight is in India. But to fight that battle he needs a proxy rival in the US. Fortunately for Natwar, Paul Volcker is an American. So he could easily give an ideological spin to a complicated issue of corruption, international morality and national embarrassment.
http://www.gurumurthy.net/articledisplay.pl?2005-11-08
A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT POLICIAL USE
Reports also cited
Kakodkar’s statement that “there was no clause banning any new nuclear test by India in
the civil nuclear agreement between the country and the US.” Such comments are
comparable to any other defiant nuclear power in the world; the most significant
difference seems to be that India has the potential to be a proxy rival against China and to
a lesser degree in the war on terror. Taking into account the fact that India does not take
part in the PSI and never supported the U.S. in the war against Iraq, Kakodkar’s remarks
beg the question: What type of ally is India truly? Is our relationship merely the
embodiment of the adage ‘my enemy’s enemy is my friend’?
http://www.spacetransparency.org/Space_Transparency/Home_fil...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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David Hollywood
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Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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10
imaginary business competitors
I would say ....
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like a sort of avatar
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competitors invented by Tata
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Licence Raj, also the Permit Raj refers to the elaborate licenses, regulations and the accompanying red tape that were required to set up and run businesses in India between 1947 and 1990.[1]
The Licence Raj was a result of India's decision to have a planned economy where all aspects of the economy are controlled by the state and licences are given to a select few. Up to 80 government agencies had to be satisfied before private companies could produce something and, if granted, the government would regulate production.[2]
Reforms since the mid-1980s have significantly reduced regulation. Indian labour laws still prevent manufacturers from reducing workforce without prohibitive burdens.
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I think "proxy" means "theoretical" here ... i.e. not real
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maybe "simulated" as in a sort of theoretical exercise to test the system
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Note added at 8 mins (2010-05-24 12:45:21 GMT)
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like a sort of avatar
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Note added at 8 mins (2010-05-24 12:45:59 GMT)
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competitors invented by Tata
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Note added at 10 mins (2010-05-24 12:47:21 GMT)
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Licence Raj, also the Permit Raj refers to the elaborate licenses, regulations and the accompanying red tape that were required to set up and run businesses in India between 1947 and 1990.[1]
The Licence Raj was a result of India's decision to have a planned economy where all aspects of the economy are controlled by the state and licences are given to a select few. Up to 80 government agencies had to be satisfied before private companies could produce something and, if granted, the government would regulate production.[2]
Reforms since the mid-1980s have significantly reduced regulation. Indian labour laws still prevent manufacturers from reducing workforce without prohibitive burdens.
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Note added at 13 mins (2010-05-24 12:50:51 GMT)
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I think "proxy" means "theoretical" here ... i.e. not real
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Note added at 14 mins (2010-05-24 12:52:00 GMT)
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maybe "simulated" as in a sort of theoretical exercise to test the system
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rival in provision of business services by acting as proxy
"1-1. Legal Definition of Custody Business and Its Range
As mentioned above, custody business3 means the business of standing proxies who provide a wide range of services, such as custody of securities, delivery settlement, preservation of rights, exercise of voting rights, etc., on behalf of investors; in other words, on behalf of investors who invest in securities. (There are two types of proxy business: one is limited proxy with a limited level of proxy authorization for only specified matters and the other is standing proxy with an overall proxy authorization.)"
http://www.fsa.go.jp/frtc/english/e_nenpou/2005/02e.pdf
"There are two main reasons why you want to create your own proxy site: first, you have safety concerns about using public proxies, such as getting virus or spyware; second, you want to start your proxy business and make some money."
http://www.articlesbase.com/internet-articles/proxy-hosting-...
As mentioned above, custody business3 means the business of standing proxies who provide a wide range of services, such as custody of securities, delivery settlement, preservation of rights, exercise of voting rights, etc., on behalf of investors; in other words, on behalf of investors who invest in securities. (There are two types of proxy business: one is limited proxy with a limited level of proxy authorization for only specified matters and the other is standing proxy with an overall proxy authorization.)"
http://www.fsa.go.jp/frtc/english/e_nenpou/2005/02e.pdf
"There are two main reasons why you want to create your own proxy site: first, you have safety concerns about using public proxies, such as getting virus or spyware; second, you want to start your proxy business and make some money."
http://www.articlesbase.com/internet-articles/proxy-hosting-...
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