Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Hebrew term or phrase:
גונדר
English translation:
(equivalent to) Major General
Added to glossary by
Lingopro
Aug 14, 2012 16:08
11 yrs ago
Hebrew term
גונדר
Hebrew to English
Social Sciences
Other
prison / titles
What would be the equivalent in English?
I saw Susan's question here on Proz. This one is not in there.
Any idea anyone?
I saw Susan's question here on Proz. This one is not in there.
Any idea anyone?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 | warder |
judithyf
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| 4 | warden |
Simon Charass
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| 4 | prison warden (USA) or warder (UK) |
Mary Jane Shubow
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| 3 | prisons' commissioner/Commissioner of Prisons/Deputy commissioner of police |
Gad Kohenov
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Proposed translations
10 mins
Selected
warder
senior office rank in the Prison Service corresponding to Major General in the IDF
Note from asker:
| Thank you Judith. |
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you Judith. I asked the גונדר's assistant... you are right about the equivalent rank in IDF, but warder doesn't seem "big" enough for my purposes.
"
5 hrs
Simon Charass
Canada
Canada
Native in English
Canada
Over 20 Years Freelance Translation
Native in: English 
, French
Works in: Italian to English, French to English, English to French, and 9 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
4
warden
Deputy or Assistant (Prison) Superintendent or Warden may be the one, depending on the country.
Warden =
2 b : the governor of a town, district, or fortress
3a : an official charged with special supervisory duties or with the enforcement of specified laws or regulations
3b : an official in charge of the operation of a prison
It all depends on the target country, as each one has its specific terminology.
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/דרגות_שירות_בתי_הסוהר
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty's_Prison_Service Senior Prison Officer (UK)
Comparing the insignia on 2 sites above, the term would translate as Senior Prison Officer in UK.
Warden =
2 b : the governor of a town, district, or fortress
3a : an official charged with special supervisory duties or with the enforcement of specified laws or regulations
3b : an official in charge of the operation of a prison
It all depends on the target country, as each one has its specific terminology.
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/דרגות_שירות_בתי_הסוהר
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty's_Prison_Service Senior Prison Officer (UK)
Comparing the insignia on 2 sites above, the term would translate as Senior Prison Officer in UK.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, Simon. Funny, I made the same comparison, and wrote the latter. Now it's up to the client to approve. |
8 hrs
Mary Jane Shubow
United States
United States
Native in English
Works in field
United States
Related KudoZ points
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3
prison warden (USA) or warder (UK)
Warden means a guard or guardian at different kinds of institutions. The Hebrew word גונדר now refers to the prison system in Israel. It was also a rank in the Etzel. I do not think the term is used for any other institutions, as the word warden is. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warden and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warder
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Note added at 8 hrs (2012-08-15 00:20:19 GMT)
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Sorry, I did not notice the other answers so there is some overlap!
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Note added at 8 hrs (2012-08-15 00:20:19 GMT)
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Sorry, I did not notice the other answers so there is some overlap!
Note from asker:
| Thanks Mary. I didn't know גונדר was used in the Etzel. |
15 hrs
Gad Kohenov
Israel
Israel
Native in Hebrew
Israel
30 years of experience+satisfied clients
Native in: French , Hebrew
Works in: English to Hebrew, Hebrew to English, French to Hebrew, and 8 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
66
prisons' commissioner/Commissioner of Prisons/Deputy commissioner of police
Different dictionaries have different translations. It also depends on the country you refer to.
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Note added at 15 hrs (2012-08-15 07:58:26 GMT)
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Warden? warden is something else:
(ש"ע) סוהר; מפקד בית-סוהר; מפקח; פקח; שומר; אפוטרופוס; ממונה
According to Babylon.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2012-08-15 09:40:02 GMT)
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Than you can use prison director.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2012-08-15 09:40:41 GMT)
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Then**
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Note added at 18 hrs (2012-08-15 10:17:29 GMT)
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Prison Governor
Superintendent of Jail
In the UK, a Prison Governor is responsible for the management and security of a prison, jail, remand centre and young offenders' institution. In India and Pakistan, the head of a District, Central, Women or special Prison/Jail is called Superintendent of Jail, Superintendent Jail, Senior Superintendent of Jail or Senior Superintendent Jail, depending upon the size and area of responsibility/jurisdiction of the prison. In Sri Lanka, Superintendent is a rank in the Department of Prisons, who would head a prison.
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Note added at 18 hrs (2012-08-15 10:18:35 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superintendent_of_Jail
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Note added at 15 hrs (2012-08-15 07:58:26 GMT)
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Warden? warden is something else:
(ש"ע) סוהר; מפקד בית-סוהר; מפקח; פקח; שומר; אפוטרופוס; ממונה
According to Babylon.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2012-08-15 09:40:02 GMT)
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Than you can use prison director.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2012-08-15 09:40:41 GMT)
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Then**
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Note added at 18 hrs (2012-08-15 10:17:29 GMT)
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Prison Governor
Superintendent of Jail
In the UK, a Prison Governor is responsible for the management and security of a prison, jail, remand centre and young offenders' institution. In India and Pakistan, the head of a District, Central, Women or special Prison/Jail is called Superintendent of Jail, Superintendent Jail, Senior Superintendent of Jail or Senior Superintendent Jail, depending upon the size and area of responsibility/jurisdiction of the prison. In Sri Lanka, Superintendent is a rank in the Department of Prisons, who would head a prison.
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Note added at 18 hrs (2012-08-15 10:18:35 GMT)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superintendent_of_Jail
Note from asker:
| Thanks Gad. While I agree that warden doesn't seem appropriate here, I think it's not commissioner either, which is נציב, and I only really need the גונדר who is מנהל בית הכלא in my text. |
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