Dec 20, 2013 14:24
10 yrs ago
Russian term
Процедуре ... соответствует оформление...
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I'm really stuck with that. The full sentence goes as folows:
"Процедуре уполномоченного грузоотправителя соответствует таможенное оформление и выпуск товаров, транспортных средств коммерческого назначения в соответствии с таможенным режимом экспорта без их предъявления органу доходов и сборов, которому подано таможенную декларацию, заполненную в обычном порядке"
That is, roughly speaking, B procedure (таможенное оформление) corresponds to procedure A (Процедуре уполномоченного грузоотправителя), which would be one way to translate it.
Can you suggest any other methods/combinations, which would retain the original structure or just make the sentence sound more or less coherent?
Thank you in advance.
"Процедуре уполномоченного грузоотправителя соответствует таможенное оформление и выпуск товаров, транспортных средств коммерческого назначения в соответствии с таможенным режимом экспорта без их предъявления органу доходов и сборов, которому подано таможенную декларацию, заполненную в обычном порядке"
That is, roughly speaking, B procedure (таможенное оформление) corresponds to procedure A (Процедуре уполномоченного грузоотправителя), which would be one way to translate it.
Can you suggest any other methods/combinations, which would retain the original structure or just make the sentence sound more or less coherent?
Thank you in advance.
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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Authorized consignor; shipper; sender of freight/cargo/goods complies with the procedure...
No wonder you're stuck with this one - it's a very clumsy sentence. For instance,
"без их предъявления органу доходов и сборов, которому подано таможенную декларацию, заполненную" is poor grammar (should be, for ex. "которому подаётся таможенная декларация, заполненная".
This mistake kind of made me suspicious about the structure of the rest of the text. Perhaps, there are no procedures A and B, but just one procedure the shipper complies with?
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Note added at 5 days (2013-12-25 22:06:38 GMT)
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Hmm...so, if I understand correctly, Sterk, more than one procedure after all?.. I still think the proposed translation works, though. And please don't be sorry. I am sorry if I sounded highbrow; certainly didn't mean to. Happy Holidays!
"без их предъявления органу доходов и сборов, которому подано таможенную декларацию, заполненную" is poor grammar (should be, for ex. "которому подаётся таможенная декларация, заполненная".
This mistake kind of made me suspicious about the structure of the rest of the text. Perhaps, there are no procedures A and B, but just one procedure the shipper complies with?
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Note added at 5 days (2013-12-25 22:06:38 GMT)
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Hmm...so, if I understand correctly, Sterk, more than one procedure after all?.. I still think the proposed translation works, though. And please don't be sorry. I am sorry if I sounded highbrow; certainly didn't mean to. Happy Holidays!
Note from asker:
| This piece is kind of 'wrenched out' of the context, but there is a small list of such "Процедуре такой-то соответствует то-то и то-то". Like someone say: you must follow these procedures, and you reply: "No problem, I'm doing this and it corresponds to this procedure, and I'm doing that, which meets the requirements of that procedure..." As to the poor wording: sorry, just not quite accurate translation from Ukrainian |
| I might be quite wrong Alexandra, you know. And you may have much better insight into such things. What I was really interested in was translating such syntax in general; suppose you have your own procedures and I have mine and someone else is trying to find similarities between some of them. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Olga Cartlidge
: authorised shipper is tasked with implementing the procedure of
3 hrs
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| agree |
cyhul
10 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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Nadezhda Golubeva
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Native in Russian
Works in field
Russian Federation
Experience and Responsibility
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English
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84
Authorized shipping agent acts in accordance with...
...custom clearance (rules)
49 mins
David Knowles
Native in English
Works in field
Specialist in Civil Law & Contracts
Native in: English 
Works in: Russian to English, English, Ukrainian to English
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Procedure X implements/meets the requirements of the customs clearance rules...
If you use a word like "implements" it probably makes more sense.
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Note added at 5 days (2013-12-25 21:11:39 GMT)
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"Corresponds to" doesn't make sense in English. My understanding is that the customs people set the rules, and each carrier has to develop procedures to stay within/meet the requirements of /put into effect those rules.
My feeling was that "implements" was the simplest, but I'm happy with "meets the requirements of".
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Note added at 6 days (2013-12-26 15:31:18 GMT)
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соответствовать has a wider range of meanings than "correspond to" in English. Looking at the bewildering list of translations on Multitran, "conforms to" might be quite a good translation here.
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Note added at 6 days (2013-12-26 17:15:29 GMT)
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"is in line with" works well!
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Note added at 5 days (2013-12-25 21:11:39 GMT)
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"Corresponds to" doesn't make sense in English. My understanding is that the customs people set the rules, and each carrier has to develop procedures to stay within/meet the requirements of /put into effect those rules.
My feeling was that "implements" was the simplest, but I'm happy with "meets the requirements of".
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Note added at 6 days (2013-12-26 15:31:18 GMT)
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соответствовать has a wider range of meanings than "correspond to" in English. Looking at the bewildering list of translations on Multitran, "conforms to" might be quite a good translation here.
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Note added at 6 days (2013-12-26 17:15:29 GMT)
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"is in line with" works well!
Note from asker:
| I'm not sure about 'implements'. My understanding is that the current procedure corresponds to / meets the requirements of the procedure in question. |
| Ok, I see your point; that may be just the case, but we need some more context to be sure. "Meeting the requirements of" does not at least distort the meaning, so in the meanwhile I can get away with it. And it's a shame that '"corresponds to" doesn't make sense in English' anymore. I was sure it had. Thank you for keeping me updated! |
| or 'in line with' |
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