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| | | | James McVay 
Соединети Американски Држави
Local time: 23:26
руски на англиски
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| Native language, too! | Jun 11, 2009 |
It's an age thing. I turn on subtitles when I watch DVDs, and my wife and kids hate it.
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I always turn off subtitles when I am watching a movie in English and they have Italian subtitles. The reason is because it really upsets me to see so many incredible translation errors, and this spoils the pleasure of watching the movie (let's not talk about what I think I would do to the translator if I only could )...
| | | | Peggy Froidefond (X)
Local time: 05:26
холандски на француски
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| It's beyond my control... | Jun 11, 2009 |
I just can't help it! Laziness maybe But that's how I can tell how bad TV5 translations are...
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| Strange behaviour | Jun 11, 2009 |
I hear the English, I make the translation in my mind, then I read the subtitles and I "proofread" them. It's fun
| | | | | Are they really so bad? | Jun 11, 2009 |
Three posts so far complain about how bad subtitles are
| | | | Joan Berglund
Соединети Американски Држави
Local time: 23:26
Член (2008)
француски на англиски
| Other - strange behavior as well | Jun 11, 2009 |
Maria Diaconu wrote:
I hear the English, I make the translation in my mind, then I read the subtitles and I "proofread" them. It's fun
I do pretty much the same thing. And I don't think subtitles are always bad, sometimes I am suprised by how well they capture the meaning in a few words. I actually have more complaints about dubbing in terms of quality, but this may just be a matter of the particular films I have seen. Also, the relatively poor acting ability of some voice-over actors is distracting, while one tends to automatically fill in any deficiencies in subtitles by relying on the original actor's ability to convey meaning through tone and gesture- if this makes any sense. Actually, a lot of the time, I am not sure how much I am listening to the French, how much I am reading the subtitles, and how much I am deducing meaning from the action and actors' tones of voice.
| | | | neilmac
Шпанија
Local time: 05:26
шпански на англиски
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Basically I'm with Giuseppina on this one.
Usually, if the film is not all that gripping, I start to pay attention to the subtitling errors. The ones that make me most angry are those obviously translated by non-natives, since subtitle translation work is well paid as far as I know and I believe if something is worth doing it's worth doing well. Pay peanuts = get monkeys.
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Valeria Fuma
Аргентина
Local time: 00:26
англиски на шпански
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| Unfortunately, yes | Jun 11, 2009 |
Maria Diaconu wrote:
Three posts so far complain about how bad subtitles are
Well, I've seen beauty and disaster as regards subtitles. The ones from last TV series I watched in DVD had been "machine-translated", for sure, with no post-editing at all (I think it's best not to mention which TV series was, just in case)
I used to translate subtitles; in fact, it's one of the fields I most like.
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| | | | Valeria Fuma
Аргентина
Local time: 00:26
англиски на шпански
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Maria Diaconu wrote:
I hear the English, I make the translation in my mind, then I read the subtitles and I "proofread" them. It's fun
Me too!!
| | | | | I can't help it | Jun 11, 2009 |
I generally opt out of subtitles when watching films/ serials on DVD. However, when watching a program on TV, I find it very hard not to read the subtitles - it's like they attract my attention and I can't help looking at them.
Also, I tend to immediately forget any translation blunders I might catch.
[Edited at 2009-06-11 21:31 GMT]
| | | | Stanislaw Czech, MCIL CL
Обединето Кралство
Local time: 04:26
Член (2006)
англиски на полски
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ЛОКАЛИЗАТОР НА САЈТОТ | I also cannot help it | Jun 11, 2009 |
They are not always so bad - sometimes I really appreciate the skill of someone who did tem
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| for American slang! | Jun 11, 2009 |
I rarely see films with subtitles and don't usually activate them when watching a DVD. But on some American films, even though they're supposedly speaking English, I find it very hard to follow so I have been known to use the English subtitles, not the translation.
In Italy most imported films are dubbed anyway, so if we want to hear the original version we have to go to a special night at the cinema, or hire/buy the DVD.
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Not usually, but sometimes.
But when I watch movie I am there to watch movie.
Not to compare the subtitle with what's being spoken.
| | | | Marna Renteria
Соединети Американски Држави
Local time: 23:26
шпански на англиски
| I answered N/A... | Jun 11, 2009 |
...because at first I thought it was a trick question. Sorry, maybe it's the engineer in me, but the question seems to assume there are already subtitles there. Of course, most American movies do not have subtitles, but if I had thought before I clicked, I would have remembered the few American movies I have watched that had English subtitles for foreign language dialog, like Apocalypto. In that cases, technically, the movie was in my working language of English, except for those portions, so of... See more ...because at first I thought it was a trick question. Sorry, maybe it's the engineer in me, but the question seems to assume there are already subtitles there. Of course, most American movies do not have subtitles, but if I had thought before I clicked, I would have remembered the few American movies I have watched that had English subtitles for foreign language dialog, like Apocalypto. In that cases, technically, the movie was in my working language of English, except for those portions, so of course, I read the subtitles. However, for my working language of Spanish, I do read English subtitles in a movie if the actors are speaking Spanish, so that I could critique them. (;
The subtitle translation I most remember: I was in Mexico, watching 'The Temptations' movie on the hotel TV, and the song, "Papa Was a Rolling Stone" was playing. Subtitles in Spanish scrolled across the bottom, and the translation of the chorus caught my eye. The English is:
Papa was a rolling stone
Wherever he laid his hat was his home
And when he died, all he left us was alone
I had never read the lyrics before in English, so I had always assumed they were singing that last word as "alone". However, the Spanish rendered it as "deudas", suggesting that they heard it "a loan". I suppose a papa like that could have left them debts, too! Hmmm...
That leads me to ask, does a subtitle translator work from the script, or from the final film? I have noticed that sometimes the translation does not match the speech, in a way that doesn't seem to be a mistake, but rather perhaps a change in the dialogue since the translator saw or heard it.
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