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Poll: Do you insist on a signed contract before beginning work?
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Nov 14, 2012

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Maria Isabel Pazos Gómez
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Interpreting jobs Nov 14, 2012

It is a must, otherwise you could have severe problems.

Have a nice day!

Mabel


 
DianeGM
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not on a per job basis Nov 14, 2012

I do not always require a signed contract on a per job basis.
It would be a probitively time-consuming amount administration & paper work, not to mention how ashamed I'd be of my carbon footprint.
Usually I procede per job on basis of a written agreement which can range from 1 line in an email to PO, word order. etc.
I have also signed general service provision contracts with most of my clients.


 
Julian Holmes
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Yes, always Nov 14, 2012

If the poll question is referring to a services contract with a new customer. I can't imagine beginning a new business relationship without one.

And "Yes, always" again if it is referring to a PO or purchase order, which should be issued before each new translation project, however big or small. And all of my customers are large companies and translation agencies who are well-organized enough to provide me with a copy of their services contract.

I've had people pull the
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If the poll question is referring to a services contract with a new customer. I can't imagine beginning a new business relationship without one.

And "Yes, always" again if it is referring to a PO or purchase order, which should be issued before each new translation project, however big or small. And all of my customers are large companies and translation agencies who are well-organized enough to provide me with a copy of their services contract.

I've had people pull the plug halfway during a project in the past before -- i.e. in the Dark Ages before issue of a PO was obligated by law here in Japan -- to be sucked into a rotten mess.

Once bitten, twice shy!

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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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Yes, sometimes Nov 14, 2012

I have signed contracts with some of my clients, but with the majority I insist on a PO before beginning work. I must say however that with one of my long-time clients (more than 25 years of monthly work), things started (and continued) without contract or purchase order and he is the only one that always pays the day after receiving my invoice. Lucky me!

 
Alexandranow
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trying Nov 14, 2012

ProZ.com Staff wrote:

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I do insist, but unfortunately very few clients are willing to do that. Do not understand why are they against clear matters. Would be easier to have a signed contract for both parties.


 
neilmac
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No Nov 14, 2012

How perfectly tiresome life would be if this were necessary. I can't even be bothered with POs. If I have to quibble with clients, I'd rather not bother dealing with them.
I prefer to assume that the people I do business with will honour any informal agreement or understanding we might have, and in my case this is usually how it works out.


 
Michael Harris
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No, never really Nov 14, 2012

I do have some customers that request this from their side that I accept, but as Julian mentioned, I always expect a PO before starting the job as this is also some sort of "contract".
I do specify all important matters to a new customer when starting with them, such as payment / terms of payment / liability, we agree and that was it.
Only a few customers also send / want such contracts back in paper form.


 
christela (X)
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No, never Nov 14, 2012

A contract would be an overkill. Especially if one has 5-20 small jobs a day.
But a signed quote, PO or clear e-mail is necessary.


 
Noni Gilbert Riley
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No, but... Nov 14, 2012

... I do ask clients to put their project requests in writing. With agencies, some supply order numbers, some don't, but I always want something written down which confirms the agreed price and deadline. Old and trusted clients will however normally be the latter, although I still tend to sneak in the written agreement in the form of an e-mail correspondence.

 
Never Nov 14, 2012

Someone emails you a text, you email them a price, they email back to confirm - ta-da, instant contract!

Whether you should trust strangers to pay you is a different matter altogether...

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James A. Walsh
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I've never really thought of it as a "contract" before, but... Nov 14, 2012

Chris S wrote:

Someone emails you a text, you email them a price, they email back to confirm - ta-da, instant contract!


As Chris says, it's usually as simple as this. I do tend to be rather explicit about asking new clients about their payment terms though (including bank transfer charges), and usually include something along the lines of "if you could issue a PO, that would be great, otherwise, your response to this email will suffice". I also always check their Blue Board record if they are on this site (which they usually are), and assess them via that information. Or check their website to see how "professional" or not it strikes me as. In the ten years I've worked as a translator I've only ever been ripped off once for a whopping $28, so I can't really grumble.


 
Nikki Graham
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No, but... Nov 14, 2012

Chris S wrote:

Someone emails you a text, you email them a price, they email back to confirm - ta-da, instant contract!

Whether you should trust strangers to pay you is a different matter altogether...


I agree with this view. However, a lot of my clients do send POs, ranging from extremely long PDF documents with lots of clauses, to a quick insert in emails, and that's fine too, but I never insist on them.

I agree with neilmac as well:

If I have to quibble with clients, I'd rather not bother dealing with them.


Perhaps I'm just getting old and tetchy, but I'm just not interested in people who muck me around

[Edited at 2012-11-14 11:11 GMT]


 
Eileen Ferguson
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No Nov 14, 2012

An email with a simple "yes" to my last proposal is enough for me; just as binding.

 
Nelia Fahloun (X)
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Depends on the client Nov 14, 2012

I think it depends on the client. Here is what I do:
- agencies : they send a PO
- other freelance translators subcontracting to me: they send an email stating the number of words and rate. French courts consider it sufficient to establish a business relationship in case of dispute
- "external" clients (non-translation companies, individuals): they return my quotation signed and scanned by email.


 
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