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DianeGM 
Local time: 05:24
холандски на англиски
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| A little bit shorter | Jul 4, 2013 |
I find I can usually express what's needed a little more concisely
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Tim Drayton (X)
Кипар
Local time: 05:24
турски на англиски
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Expressing something better usually entails expressing it more concisely.
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Like Diane and Tim, after proofreading one hopes that things are more concise and clear...
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Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
Соединети Американски Држави
Local time: 19:24
шпански на англиски
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| About the same | Jul 4, 2013 |
When I translate, I'm pretty much finished with how I want to express things. Proofreading for me is about catching errors.
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Emma Goldsmith
Шпанија
Local time: 04:24
Член (2004)
шпански на англиски
| Proofreading or editing? | Jul 4, 2013 |
My translations are the same after proofreading. As Muriel says, proofreading is just for catching errors.
My translations tend to be a bit shorter after editing, which is when you improve the style and make things more concise and clear, as others have mentioned.
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| About the same | Jul 4, 2013 |
A lot of my editing consists of rearranging the clauses in a sentence.
(And sometimes rearranging them back again...)
I aim to get it right first time, so that it doesn't need a lot of editing, especially as many of my jobs are small and deadlines are short, even if they are not tight. Then if necessary I can deliver after a quick proofreading.
But of course, nothing in this world is perfect... and editing after a break usually means a clear improvement.
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Emma Goldsmith wrote:
My translations are the same after proofreading. As Muriel says, proofreading is just for catching errors.
My translations tend to be a bit shorter after editing, which is when you improve the style and make things more concise and clear, as others have mentioned.
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| Barely noticeable | Jul 4, 2013 |
..but the tendency is to lose four or five words on a 2K job. Just for the record, although the word count from German to English increases by 15% or so, the number of characters tends to remain exactly the same!
Steve K.
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| Snip here, snip there | Jul 4, 2013 |
Any good written text -- whether translated or straight from the heart -- is tight, real tight, to the point, succinct, sweet not mushy. Hmmmm. Niiiiiice
If I "do" anything to what I have translated -- I keep my initial draft sharp, tight (I've been doing this 30+ years) -- it's only minimalist pruning.
Like, Steve K., it's "barely noticeable" -- sweet and sharp. Yessss, the way it shoud be 
... See more Any good written text -- whether translated or straight from the heart -- is tight, real tight, to the point, succinct, sweet not mushy. Hmmmm. Niiiiiice
If I "do" anything to what I have translated -- I keep my initial draft sharp, tight (I've been doing this 30+ years) -- it's only minimalist pruning.
Like, Steve K., it's "barely noticeable" -- sweet and sharp. Yessss, the way it shoud be
BTW
As far as word count/volume goes when translating J>E, expect text to expand or explode by 1.6 to 1.8 times.
Have a nice evening you'll 
Julian H. ▲ Collapse
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Tatty
Local time: 04:24
шпански на англиски
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| 1st draft - done | Jul 4, 2013 |
I like to do my translations in a single draft. So in theory, when I revise them the first time they should already be really close to done. I make very few changes at this stage. Then I print them out to proofread them. My time management is much more effective using this method.
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Mario Chavez (X)
Local time: 22:24
англиски на шпански
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| With Track Changes enabled, of course it's longer! | Jul 4, 2013 |
Muriel Vasconcellos wrote:
When I translate, I'm pretty much finished with how I want to express things. Proofreading for me is about catching errors.
Same here, Muriel.
Although I think I'll file this poll question in Mr. Obvious' file cabinet.
This is like asking: is the water wet?
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Oliver Lawrence wrote:
Emma Goldsmith wrote:
My translations are the same after proofreading. As Muriel says, proofreading is just for catching errors.
My translations tend to be a bit shorter after editing, which is when you improve the style and make things more concise and clear, as others have mentioned.
I agree completely with Oliver, Emma and Muriel. The question should have been "after editing", not "after proofreading".
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Jose Arnoldo Rodriguez-Carrington wrote:
Oliver Lawrence wrote:
Emma Goldsmith wrote:
My translations are the same after proofreading. As Muriel says, proofreading is just for catching errors.
My translations tend to be a bit shorter after editing, which is when you improve the style and make things more concise and clear, as others have mentioned.
I agree completely with Oliver, Emma and Muriel. The question should have been "after editing", not "after proofreading".
Who says pedantry is dead? We all know what was meant by the question.
Steve K.
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| About the same | Jul 4, 2013 |
At least as far as my own proofreading goes. However, my sentences sometimes become shorter by the time I move on. I rarely do before I'm completely satisfied.
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