Poll: Have you ever proofread a translation that was apparently done without serious effort?
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EvaVer (X)
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Oh yes! Nov 1, 2014

If you mean that the person didn't care and just wrote any odd thing, rather that translated effortlessly. Most of my proofreading aktivity, in fact, aaaaarghhh!

 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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No! Nov 1, 2014

I never accept a proofreading job without having a good look at the translation (with one exception: someone whose work I trust, because we have worked before). Time “wasted” at the beginning represents fewer headaches later on…

 
Gianluca Marras
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several times Nov 1, 2014

Yes, and for a specific client, it was always the same translator.
I finally said: look this guy is gonna cost you a lot of money, because my rate is different, I am basically re-writing, re-searching terms....
I found out he was so cheap that at the end of the day, having his translation almost re-done was cheaper than a good translator... anyway this guy is not working for that company anymore, everybody refused the proofreading assignments!!!


 
M. Anna Kańduła
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Yes Nov 1, 2014

Surprisingly, many of those were test translations.

 
Yetta Jensen Bogarde
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No, Nov 1, 2014

I cannot say I have.
But I have proofread translations that were not that great and where I thought this translator still has a lot to learn.


 
Jennifer Forbes
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It's more a question of ... Nov 1, 2014

In my experience, it's more a question of translations done by someone who seems to think their English is of native standard when it obviously isn't. And sometimes my work is similarly "proof read" by someone equally unqualified to write good English. Most annoying. I avoid proof reading whenever possible. Time consuming and unrewarding.

 
LilianNekipelov
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What do you mean? Nov 1, 2014

The question is basically incomprehensible. A translation that the original translator claimed that it did not require any effort on his or her part? Or, that the translation company thought that it should not have required or did not require any effort. Which one is it?

Or, perhaps, something else.

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Thayenga
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A couple of times Nov 1, 2014

An allegedly native German translator translated 2 documents, topic Halloween. The choice of words was...non-native. Although Halloween has been existing, so to speak, in my country only for a few decades, the German terminology is known. Or should be.

 
Maxi Schwarz
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other Nov 1, 2014

I had trouble understanding the question, and it could be understood several ways. I have proofread translations where the original translator showed signs of having superb mastery - especially if the source text was also well written and easy to translate - then I saw the apparent effortlessness of a master. I have also proofread translations where there were signs that the translator did not seem to have the necessary skills, and had apparently worked very hard, and the translation was poor ... See more
I had trouble understanding the question, and it could be understood several ways. I have proofread translations where the original translator showed signs of having superb mastery - especially if the source text was also well written and easy to translate - then I saw the apparent effortlessness of a master. I have also proofread translations where there were signs that the translator did not seem to have the necessary skills, and had apparently worked very hard, and the translation was poor quality nonetheless.

I think that that question is really asking whether we have ever proofread translations that were done carelessly. I'd say that for a badly done translation, I will advise the client that it would be better to have it redone from scratch, otherwise revising at an hourly fee would be costly. so while I have seen careless, shoddy translations, I have not proofread them because I have advised the end client not to go that route.
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nweatherdon
nweatherdon
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depends if it's a third party translation or if the author is writing in non-native language Nov 1, 2014

I think it is easy to misunderstand the very serious effort of a person with current skills limitations as being "lazy" or some such thing.

When I proofread, it is usually when the writer has a native language other than English, not the translation of some third party, so their is less scope to go completely off the mark. They might way things "wrong", but at least there is sure (one hopes) to be some logical coherence. The task is therefore to seek that logical coherence, which c
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I think it is easy to misunderstand the very serious effort of a person with current skills limitations as being "lazy" or some such thing.

When I proofread, it is usually when the writer has a native language other than English, not the translation of some third party, so their is less scope to go completely off the mark. They might way things "wrong", but at least there is sure (one hopes) to be some logical coherence. The task is therefore to seek that logical coherence, which could easily be impossible when proofreading a translation by someone who didn't understand the underlying meaning of the source text.
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Richard Jenkins
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By not reading into the question too much... Nov 1, 2014

Have I ever proofread a sentence, phrase, block of text and thought that the translator could have done better? Yes, more than once.

 
Egor Shapurov
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Yes Nov 1, 2014

Yesterday, for instance, I had to revise a translation that was quite obviously done without any serious effort. The guy just translated everything literally so I had to find all the terms on my own, and I'm sure that he could have done a much better job if he had spent 5 minutes of his time doing research on the subject. It was a 150 words long product description of a very simple optical microscope. I'm sure that he didn't even care to proofread it once (e.g. he confuses 'object' and 'objectiv... See more
Yesterday, for instance, I had to revise a translation that was quite obviously done without any serious effort. The guy just translated everything literally so I had to find all the terms on my own, and I'm sure that he could have done a much better job if he had spent 5 minutes of his time doing research on the subject. It was a 150 words long product description of a very simple optical microscope. I'm sure that he didn't even care to proofread it once (e.g. he confuses 'object' and 'objective', etc).Collapse


 
Sharon Toh, MITI MCIL
Sharon Toh, MITI MCIL
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Many times Nov 2, 2014

Unfortunately...
That's why I tend to dislike proofreading tasks.


 


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