Poll: How often do you come across abbreviations while translating? Лице кое објавува дискусија: ProZ.com Staff
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This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "How often do you come across abbreviations while translating?".
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| | | | Anatolian 
Турција
Local time: 05:47
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The question can also be regarded as "how often do you come across acronyms while translating?".
Thanks.
[Değişiklik saati 2016-03-16 08:22 GMT]
| | | | | Other - Frequently | Mar 16, 2016 |
And if I do not know what they should be, I ask or leave it as it is and inform the customer when delivering as unfortunately, many differnt customers (or at least their well paid engineers) live in a world of their own which leads to them creatig quite ammusing abbreviations.
And it gets even more funny when "Dr." or "Prof." is at the front of the title☺
| | | | | Very frequently | Mar 16, 2016 |
That's why I have been building an abbreviations/acronyms glossary for 20 years, which by now is 280 pages long...
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neilmac
Шпанија
Local time: 04:47
шпански на англиски
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The problem is when they are undefined, so I usually insist that clients using them must also define them, otherwise they get left untouched in the translation. It saves me loads of time and frustration.
My collaboration condition number 6 reads something like this: "The accurate translation of abbreviations and/or acronyms that have not been defined in the original text cannot be guaranteed, except for the most common (NATO, IBM, KPI, etc)."
| | | | | Acronyms are not the same as abbreviations | Mar 16, 2016 |
I answered usually, after hovering over 'always'.
The pedant in me insists that acronyms are words formed from the initial letters of others.
Such as AIDS/SIDA, radar - from ra(dio) d(etection) a(nd) r(anging) - and laser, which are hardly regarded as abbreviations these days.
It depends what you mean by abbreviations, too. Simply titles like Dr, Mr, Mrs, or PhD, MSc and so on are strictly abbreviations, not to mention the bl. a. (= among other things) which some... See more I answered usually, after hovering over 'always'.
The pedant in me insists that acronyms are words formed from the initial letters of others.
Such as AIDS/SIDA, radar - from ra(dio) d(etection) a(nd) r(anging) - and laser, which are hardly regarded as abbreviations these days.
It depends what you mean by abbreviations, too. Simply titles like Dr, Mr, Mrs, or PhD, MSc and so on are strictly abbreviations, not to mention the bl. a. (= among other things) which some Danish writers seem to use as a kind of extended comma. Far from all, to be fair! Just as some English writers pepper their texts with etc. or even worse, ect. 
While acronyms are often easy to find and translate or not, as appropriate, some abbreviations are a real challenge.
Like the recent spgl. in Danish to English KudoZ, which nobody found an answer to. It was not for lack of trying on my part!
I too collect lists of abbreviations and buy or subscribe to other people's. The medical abbreviations list is 'only' five or six pages long, and a lot of the entries are gleaned from colleagues here who have contributed to KudoZ. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | All the time | Mar 16, 2016 |
I'm a tech translator and technology, especially information technology, is probably the area that is changing the most and most difficult to keep up with. As a result, I am constantly coming up against new acronyms. Entire sentences can be littered with 'em.
| | | | Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
Соединети Американски Држави
Local time: 19:47
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Anatolian wrote:
The question can also be regarded as "how often do you come across acronyms while translating?".
Thanks.
[Değişiklik saati 2016-03-16 08:22 GMT]
The correct term is 'abbreviations' - acronyms are abbreviations that can be pronounced and represent a subset of all abbreviations.
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Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
Соединети Американски Држави
Local time: 19:47
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| All the time | Mar 16, 2016 |
I have hardly ever had a document that didn't contain a bunch of abbreviations, and I've been translating for more than 40 years.
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Just confirmed that two different abbreviations in the same doc. can mean the same thing. Or not.
A PITA, AFAIC.
Philippe
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Never been moved to use this one before, but your post made me LOL. Thank you!
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Julian Holmes wrote:
I'm a tech translator and technology, especially information technology, is probably the area that is changing the most and most difficult to keep up with. As a result, I am constantly coming up against new acronyms. Entire sentences can be littered with 'em.
Hi Julian, how are things over there? What does an abbreviation look like in Japanese?
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Natalia Pedrosa
Шпанија
Local time: 04:47
Член (2012)
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| To Christine | Mar 16, 2016 |
Hello,
Could it be possible that spgl stands for Spanglish?
Such as suggestion.
Greeting to everyone!
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Michael Harris wrote:
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Hi Julian, how are things over there? What does an abbreviation look like in Japanese?
Hmm, could be a lot better. A customer canceled a 1.2 million yen job the other day - you do the math.
In answer to your question
Japanese engineers will indiscriminately use English abbreviations and acronyms to show they 'understand' English, when in fact they misuse them in a lot of cases or interpret them in their own way.
If 4 Kanji characters are used for place names or dept. names in an in-document, they are shortened by taking the 1st and 3rd characters or the 2nd and 4th characters so you have to rack your brains to figure out what it means. They conveniently forget that it's people outside the company who have to do the translation and more often than not they do not provide a list of 'local' terms.
Otherwise,
Words like 'speed controller' will get contracted to 'speecon'. You either know it or not.
And, they coin new terms to make them sound like English - these are called 'Japanese English' which, at first glance, 'sounds' like English but when you really think about it, it really makes no sense at all. So, you have to treat each text with suspicion.
I had the misfortune to bump into one yesterday. A component called a 'drain up mecha.' 'mecha' is a contracted form for 'mechanism' but it still doesn't help you understand, does it. 
I sent it back to the customer since the term is accepted in the Japanese market for a component in a heat exchange unit in an air conditioning system. I'm still scratching my head after even after doing an extensive search on the web. All hits are for Japanese manufacturers so, once again, this is Japanese English. There probably is a 'real ' English term out there somewhere but you can't even begin to guess what it is by looking at the coined Japanese English term.
HTH
| | | | Mario Freitas
Бразил
Local time: 23:47
англиски на португалски
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| Always and many | Mar 17, 2016 |
Technical/engineering documents represent the largest slice of my jobs. And let me tell you: these people just love abbreviations. They are all over the documents.
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